I'm still trying to work out how to post an image of the family tree which would make things a whole lot clearer to others following this blog and my thought processes.
In the meantime, here is a narrative version of my line, starting from me and going down the paternal line:
Philip Roger Richards (b.1968)
Clayton Windsor Richards (b. 1944)
Richard Richards (b. 1913, d. 1979)
Richard Richards (b. 1884, d. 1947)
Richard Richards (b. 1851, d. 1912)
John Richards (b. 1815, d. 1897)
Richard Richards (b. 1790/2, d. 1875)
The initial research goes beyond this, currently to Baronet Sir John Richards (b. abt 1640) but there is some evidence that the tree is not accurate from the last person mentioned in the list above, and in any case it's not relevant for the point of this post.
The point of this post is to identify which of the Richards' from Devon were the ones who came over to Wales. In turns out, according to the research of Angela Manning (who still lives in near Trentishoe, Devon, and appears to share my ancestry) that of John Richards' (1815-1897) nine children, four of them went over to Wales. This included Richard (in bold in list above) who is my great-great grandfather, and who was the one who started my line of the Richards' in Wales. The 1871 census shows him inn Wales at that time as a "stone breaker", a "collier" in his marriage certificate to Margaret Morgan in Cadoxton (a village outside Neath where I was brought up) before it appears that he took over the Duke of Wellington pub sometime after 1888.
The other children of John and his wife Mary-Ann who went over to Wales, according to Angela Manning, appear to be Thomas, Grace and William Richards. According to the current information on Ancestry.com, Thomas appears to have lived in Llantwit Lower (which is in/near Neath) - I wonder whether him and his brother Richard were close? Grace married a Thomas Phillips, and at one time lived for some time in the Cardiff area (Canton is mentioned as her residence in the 1901 census). William, according to Ancestry, was not the son of Mary-Ann and there is no evidence on Ancestry of where he lived in Wales.
In the meantime, here is a narrative version of my line, starting from me and going down the paternal line:
Philip Roger Richards (b.1968)
Clayton Windsor Richards (b. 1944)
Richard Richards (b. 1913, d. 1979)
Richard Richards (b. 1884, d. 1947)
Richard Richards (b. 1851, d. 1912)
John Richards (b. 1815, d. 1897)
Richard Richards (b. 1790/2, d. 1875)
The initial research goes beyond this, currently to Baronet Sir John Richards (b. abt 1640) but there is some evidence that the tree is not accurate from the last person mentioned in the list above, and in any case it's not relevant for the point of this post.
The point of this post is to identify which of the Richards' from Devon were the ones who came over to Wales. In turns out, according to the research of Angela Manning (who still lives in near Trentishoe, Devon, and appears to share my ancestry) that of John Richards' (1815-1897) nine children, four of them went over to Wales. This included Richard (in bold in list above) who is my great-great grandfather, and who was the one who started my line of the Richards' in Wales. The 1871 census shows him inn Wales at that time as a "stone breaker", a "collier" in his marriage certificate to Margaret Morgan in Cadoxton (a village outside Neath where I was brought up) before it appears that he took over the Duke of Wellington pub sometime after 1888.
The other children of John and his wife Mary-Ann who went over to Wales, according to Angela Manning, appear to be Thomas, Grace and William Richards. According to the current information on Ancestry.com, Thomas appears to have lived in Llantwit Lower (which is in/near Neath) - I wonder whether him and his brother Richard were close? Grace married a Thomas Phillips, and at one time lived for some time in the Cardiff area (Canton is mentioned as her residence in the 1901 census). William, according to Ancestry, was not the son of Mary-Ann and there is no evidence on Ancestry of where he lived in Wales.
6/11/14 update : Angela Manning of Combe Martin (who is also a relative) has drawn to my attention that William Richards, Richard's brother, lived close by to Richard at 35 Rosser Terrace, Neath (1901 census) and at 35, Sydenham Terrace, Penydre, Neath (1911 census). The Penydre area of Neath is no more than half a mile from the Duke of Wellington pub.
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